Let’s Talk Faith and Politics: Civility (p6)

Who says you can’t talk politics and religion?

Thanks to all of you who participated in this discussion and for the myriad of you who may not have posted a comment but spent time reading the thoughts and ideas of others.

What we need is for people of faith to lead the way on how to have dialogue in the midst of disagreement.  Gabe Lyons, author of The Next Christians, says we need those who will lead the way on being, “Civil, Not Divisive.”  He writes,

Jesus came with a very different mission and message.  ”Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.”

I’ve pondered this statement over the years, and I can’t imagine what Jesus could possibly mean if it doesn’t include engaging in respectful dialogue with those with whom we disagree.  How can we love someone we don’t know or understand?…we can’t.  Followers of Christ in a pluralistic society must be willing and able to engage those they disagree with in constructive conversations.

This week we have seen civility on display.  Thank you!

Lyons says that civility happens only when we are willing to bite our tongues “as a neighbor persuasively argues a political point with which you disagree.  Or finding a gracious way to respond that validates the opinion of someone else before firing off your response.  We have much to gain from a posture of listening.  It can transform a divisive conversation into a fruitful one.”

My goal for this week is that we would all take the “posture of listening” so that we might truly understand our fellow brother’s and sister’s in Christ who differ from us politically–we are not enemies, we are those who worship the same Christ, read the same Bible–yet disagree on how our faith should infuse our politics.

A great way for you to continue this process would be to pick up a copy of, “Left, Right & Christ:  Evangelical Faith in Politics,” by Lisa Sharon Harper and D.C. Innes.  The authors do not agree on politics.  One is a conservative Republican the other a progressive Democrat, but they have sought to dialogue across the divide.  Their starting point is the common ground they share in Christ.  They write,

“Our chief love is Jesus, and his Word is our rule.  Both of us are Christians.  And so what we have in common is greater than all our differences.  Yet differences there are…How can two people who share the same fundamental Christian principles–profound, life-transforming, world-transforming principles–differ as sharply as we do at times on something that is also profoundly important like politics?”

I highly recommend the book as a way to continue what we began this week.

Thanks for a great week!

rg

Here’s an example of civil dialogue by Sharon Harper & Innes

To watch more click here

Let’s Talk Faith and Politics: Alternative Views (p5)

Today is for those of you who hold alternative views.  By that I mean:  Tea Party–Occupy Wall Street–Libertarian Etc.

I’m assuming that you’ve read this article:  Why I am a Christian and Libertarian

Two questions:

  1. How do you agree/disagree with the article?
  2. How did your faith & study of scripture lead you to your political position?

Again, thanks for your willingness to share and don’t feel limited by the three options that I suggested.

(If you are just not entering into this dialogue please read this first:  Let’s Talk Faith and Politics (p1))

Let’s Talk Faith and Politics: Progressives & Democrats (p4)

Today we’ll hear from those of you who would describe yourself as progressive and/or Democrat.

I’m assuming that you’ve read this article:  Why I am a Christian and Democrat

Same two questions:

  1. How do you agree/disagree with the article?
  2. How did your faith & study of scripture lead you to your political position?

Look forward to your thoughts.

Tomorrow we will hear from those of you who lean toward alternative approaches.

(If you are just not entering into this dialogue please read this first:  Let’s Talk Faith and Politics (p1))

Let’s Talk Faith and Politics (p2)

Wow, I’m loving the discussion and all of the food for thought.  Thanks for abiding by the rules of engagement. :-)

Tuesday–All of you who would describe yourself as conservative or republican get to share how your faith has led you to your position.

Wednesday–All of you who would describe yourself as progressive or democrat get to share how your faith has led you to your position.

Thursday–All of you who lean toward alternatives (Tea Party, Occupy Wall street, Libertarian) get to share how your faith has led you to your position.

Depending on discussion, we might add some other topics toward the end of the week.

Today, keep sharing your general thoughts on the previous post.  Also, take some time to read the comments of others.  The goal of this is for us to have a safe place to share how our faith influences our politics without anyone attacking us and for us to truly listen to each other.

rg

 

Let’s Talk Faith and Politics (p1)

How does your faith influence your politics?

Jesus didn’t shy away from politics and we shouldn’t either.  Rather, I believe, our faith in Christ should  guide our politics.

Yet, people deeply committed to Christ don’t all agree on politics.  Most Christians usually vote and choose their party based upon their faith.  We all don’t agree even though we are reading the same Bible and serving the same God.

This week I’m going to host a discussion on this blog on faith and politics.

My hope is that we will share our views humbly and with civility.  No attacks or rock throwing, rather let us be, “quick to listen and slow to anger.”  Let us elevate the discourse.  Ultimately, they will know we are Christians by our love not by our vote.  Amen.

Good and godly people choose to put different bumper stickers on our cars.  The problem is that is usually as far as the dialogue goes.

Are you a Democrat because you are a Christian?  Are you a Republican or Libertarian because of your faith?

Homework

Everyone is welcome to read and follow the discussion, but I’m asking that you do some homework before you post comments

Earlier this year, Relevant Magazine, did a series on faith and politics that will serve as a guide to our discussion.

Here are the links:

Why I am Christian and Libertarian

Why I am Christian and Republican

Why I am Christian and Democrat

Use these articles as food for thought and then let’s learn from each other.  This coming week we will have a day devoted to discussing each one of these viewpoints.

Ground rules:

  1. Share clearly how Jesus & the Bible lead you to your conclusions.  Let your comments flow from your faith–not republican vs. democrat; conservative vs. liberal talking points.
  2. Don’t say why you are not the other party.  That is, say what you are for, not what you are against.
  3. No attacks whatsoever upon other participants.
  4. Have fun! :-)

You ready for this?

Spirit-Led: Sailing Through Life

Sailing is the art of reading and responding to the wind.  I think that’s a good description of the Christian life too.

Jesus said, “The wind blows wherever it pleases.  You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going.  So it is with everyone born f the Spirit.”

Christianity:  The art of reading and responding to the mysterious breeze of God known as the Holy Spirit.

Noteworthy (Part 3) (Pastor Robert Gelinas) from Colorado Community Church on Vimeo.

A tell-tale is a string or ribbon that’s fastened onto a sail so you can see what the wind is doing.  Take some time and think about the “tell-tale” signs that the Spirit of God is blowing through your life.

Does the question matter?

At the beginning and end of my sermon last week I asked the question, “Do you want to walk with Jesus for the rest of your life?”

Long time believers AND people who had never believed both responded by saying “yes” to that question.  Dozens of people raised their hands and after the service I had the privilege of praying with those who had made commitments to Christ long ago and with those for whom this was a first time commitment.

Since then I’m been asking myself, “Does the question matter?

Is there a difference between:

  1. Do you want to give your life to Christ?
  2. Do you want to ask Jesus into your heart?
  3. Do you want to walk with Jesus for the rest of your life?

Are these versions of the same question or are there important distinctions between them?  Love to hear your thoughts. Does the question matter?

(If you want to listen to last weeks message click here)

Lifted By Angels

I just finished reading Lifted by Angels:  The Presence and Power of Our Heavenly Guides and Guardians.  This is hands down the most substantive book on angels I have ever read.

Joel Miller not only shows an understanding of the Biblical teaching on the subject (which, if you think about it, is rather minimal) but he also demonstrates a rich understanding of what the church has believed throughout the centuries.  It is this latter aspect that sets this book apart.

Ultimately this book will awaken your imagination to the presence and role of these magnificent beings created to serve us.  Miller puts it this way:  ”God sends his angels to live among us and lift our fallen humanity toward Christ.

Lifted by Angels explains:

  • the role that angels play in the lives of people and in God’s plan of salvation
  • the different ranks and functions of angels
  • how Satan and his demons fell from grace and why they plague people
  • the functions of guardian angels and how God assigns them to fit our personal needs
  • how guardian angels help us resist evil, temptation, and the Devil
  • the way angels join with us in our prayers, even adding their own to our own
  • the service angels provide in worship
  • the way angels accompany us when we pass from one world to the next in death

More Info. here:  www.joelmiller.com

Do You Know Your Sacred Pathway?

In a recent sermon I recommended the book, Sacred Pathways: Discover Your Souls Path to God by Gary Thomas.

There is also a quick online test that you can take (click here) but you’ll still want to read the book for a fuller understanding.

After taking the test feel to share your two highest and two lowest scores.  I’ll go first…

My Highest:  Intellectual (19) & Activists (18)

My Lowest:  Sensate (6) & Enthusiast (13)

LIFE: Fight. Finish. Keep. (Part 7) from Colorado Community Church on Vimeo.